Transcript
50
Put
First Things First
7th
March, 1991
Robert:
Peace. Good evening. It's good to see you again and be with you. Try to
remember
that I'm not a speechmaker or a minister or a philosopher. It's not words you
want
to hear. Many words can be spoken and nothing said. The answer you are looking
for
is within yourself. Everything you are looking for is within yourself. When I
say within
yourself
I don't mean your physical self. I mean within the Self. The Self is not within
you.
You
are in the Self. So when I say everything you're looking for is in the Self it
includes
your
physical body and everything else. Everything is the Self, and you are that.
All is
well.
From
your upbringing you've probably heard of the word blasphemy. The only
blasphemy
that exists is the fact that you believe that you are human. That's blasphemy,
to
believe
that you are a human being. It's the ultimate lie. You are not what appears to
be.
No
thing is what it appears to be. Then who are you? You have to find for
yourself. Is there
really
a you? Are you really an individual? Are you separate from a tree, an animal,
the
world,
the universe? Is there any separation? Find out. Do you really exist? Find out.
Do
you
have a purpose in life? Find out. Again, it's blasphemous to believe that you
were
born
as a human, and you prevail and you dissolve. That's true blasphemy.
It
all begins when you awaken in the morning. That's the time that you should
work
on yourself. As soon as you open your eyes you should make a statement such as,
"I
am
pure awareness." But never believe that your personal self is pure
awareness. You're
saying
I am is pure awareness. Your personal self, your ego, the personal I, can never
be I
am.
That doesn't even exist. Therefore think what you're saying when you say,
"I am pure
awareness."
You're not speaking about your little self. That doesn't count because that
doesn't
even exist. You're speaking of I am, pure awareness. Awareness of what? You're
aware
of something, for you claim, "I am pure awareness." You are aware of
the fact that I
am
is consciousness. Pure awareness is consciousness and I am is that.
Do
you realize the revelation when you really know what you are saying, and you
announce
it with feeling, where you disregard the body-mind phenomena and you simply
state
the truth about yourself? I am pure awareness. Awareness of I am is
consciousness.
When
you make such a statement, you will notice that you become blissful. You just
begin
to
feel wonderful all over, due to the fact that pure awareness, I am,
consciousness, expresses
itself
as bliss. They all really mean ultimate oneness.
But
as you express yourself this way, as soon as you open your eyes, something
profound
happens to you. You begin to feel the joy of your Self. You begin to feel total
happiness,
goodness, and then you can state, "All is well," and you will know
and feel that
you
are the beginning and the end. You will understand what sat-chit-ananda means.
You
will
know Parabrahman. You will feel a divine emptiness, nirvana. You will be at
peace,
for
you will understand that you are the universe, and no thing exists but
yourself. You are
the
Self of the universe.
Just
to hear this, doesn't it make you feel good, when you realize your divinity,
that
you are not a man or a woman, that you are not reincarnation or karma? There
never
was
a time when you are not. That you, are all-pervading, transcendental bliss.
Abide in
your
true nature. Stop believing that you are a sniveling human with problems. For
whom
are
there problems? How can you, pure consciousness, absolute reality, think about
a
problem?
Even
if you say, "Well, life still goes on. I've got to meet my bills. I've got
to go to
the
doctor. I've got to do this and I've got to do that." That's blasphemy,
that's what you
call
blasphemy. Not that you're not going to do it, but your body has nothing to do
with
you.
Your body-mind and all of its affiliations, does not even exist. Even Jay who
thinks
he's
blowing his nose, that's an illusion. You think, "I've got a cold. I've
got an allergy, I've
got
to go to work tomorrow morning, I've got to wear my clothes. It is this, that
keeps you
from
realization. You'll wear your clothes. You'll go to work. You will do whatever
your
body
came here to do, but don't worry about those things. Do not concern yourself
about
those
things.
The
more human you are, the more you will say, "If I don't take care of these
things,
who will?" What are you talking about? There is only one I, and that is
consciousness.
Try
to get it through your thick skull that the powers that be, know how to take
care
of
all your needs and meet them most abundantly. There is something that cares
about
you,
the great mystery. Something loves you, when you get your bloated nothingness
out
of
the way. As long as you believe that you've got to solve a problem, then you
will have
to
solve a problem. Something will take care of you.
Put
first things first. And the first thing you have to remember is that you are
pure
awareness.
You can tell yourself that. "I am pure awareness." Sure it's the mind
that does
this,
but there is something that grabs hold of the mind and annihilates it as you
turn into I
am.
These are the things that you should think about. I know it sounds strange when
I say
this,
but do not concern yourself with the world. The world was here, with all of its
destructive
mechanisms,
before you came upon the scene. It will be here after you leave.
People
who do not understand Jnana Marga, Advaita Vedanta. They say it's your
duty
to help others, to make this a better world in which to live. But they do not
understand
that
if you awaken and you become liberated, you become others. You are others.
There's
no one to help. This doesn't mean again that you will do nothing. Your body
will
appear
to be helping, to do all kinds of things. But the truth is, when you help
yourself,
you
help others. And when you help others, you help yourself. It's all one.
You
wonder what to do with the rest of your life. Should I work? Should I sit
home?
Should I join the army? Shall I become a dictator of a country? All these great
thoughts
go through your mind. Do not allow that to happen. Catch your mind. Catch
your
mind thinking and stop it. The mind is necessary as long as you are a human
being.
You
make decisions. You know what's wrong or right, good and bad. Your mind creates
the
world of duality. But as you progress in the spiritual life you begin to
realize that the
mind
is a hindrance, not a friend, for it brings up all the things of the past, and
worries
about
the things of the future. Who needs a mind like that?
Therefore
take control. And again, the best time to do this is early in the morning,
as
soon as you wake up, for the first thoughts that you think about will carry you
through
the
day. And before you fall asleep, the thoughts that you think about before you
go to
sleep
will continue when you wake up. So fall asleep understanding that I am pure
awareness.
And
you'll have a tendency to think, when you say, "I am," you're
referring to your
physical
self. Catch yourself when that happens. Your physical self can never become
enlightened.
The finite can never know the infinite. The personal I can never become the
universal
I. I am is pure consciousness. So you're consciousness. Conscious, not
personal,
not
"I am this," or "I am that," but pure consciousness,
existing as I am. I am that I am,
absolute
reality, beingness, nirvana, sat-chit-ananda, emptiness. I Am that.
If
you focus on those things during the day, before you fall asleep, when you wake
up,
most of the time you will discover an amazing secret. You will discover that
your work
is
being done better than when you were thinking about it. Everything will unfold
the
way
it's supposed to. Yet you have to, sort of, in a way, feel that in the
beginning. Make
yourself
feel it and put it first in your life, before anything else.
Think,
if you will, of what comes first in your life now. It may be your husband,
your
wife, your job, your house, your car, your friend, your ambitions, your
desires. This
is
what is keeping you back. You have to desire to rid yourself of past mistakes,
past experiences.
Stop
thinking of the future. And this is hard for most people to do, for they are
always
anticipating the future and worrying about the past. Yet this is exactly what
they
have
to do to let go, of past and future problems.
Your
physical life is already planned, and all you have to do is to unfold
beautifully
into
it. Everything will happen the way it is supposed to. You have to remember
there
is no evil in the universal, so nothing evil can ever happen to you. If you
think it can,
it's
because of your imagination. You have a certain concept, a preconceived idea,
of how
you
think things should be. And of course you're always disappointed because things
are
never
the way you think they should be. Yet everything works out for your benefit,
due to
the
fact that there's nothing in the universe that can or wants to hurt you.
Everything
is on your side, from the minutest blade of grass to the giant cosmos.
Everything
is on your side, due to the fact that you are that. Everything is on your side
because
there is only one. There is ultimate oneness, and that ultimate oneness is
perfection,
absolute reality, consciousness. That is omnipresence, all-pervading. So where
is there
room
for evil?
Where is there room for anything wrong? Why do you worry? Why do you fear? Why do you become upset? The power that brought you to this class, knows what to do to continue your spiritual growth.
But you have to put it first.
It's
like the story of the student who was in a class like this, and he kept asking
his
teacher,
"Teacher, explain it more. I don't understand, tell me more." And
this went on and
on.
And at the end of the class, when all the students left, the teacher told that
particular
student
to stay here, and then he told him, "Follow me," and he took him to
the edge of a
river.
And he said, "Look into the river." The student did, and he pushed
him into the water
and
held his head underneath the water until he nearly drowned. Then he pulled him
up
by the hair. And he looked in his face and he said, "What is it you wanted
more than
anything
else in the world, while you were under the water?" And all the student
was able
to
do was to gasp for air. And he said, "Air, air, air." And the wise
teacher said, "When you
want
to awaken as much as you wanted air, you will."
This is true of all of us. Just take a look at your personal life. Just for today, what did you want more than to awaken today? If you were angry, then you wanted that, more than awakening. You see, whatever you put your feelings into, that's what comes first in your life. If something upset you? Then that became your God. You wanted that more than anything else. If you were in doubt that became your God. Whatever turns you on, whatever turns you off, became your God for that time. And that's what you give your energy to, so you increase that condition.
As an example, if you are having problems with somebody,
the
more you think about it, the more you fuel it. The more you try to take any
kind
of
an action to stop it, or to prevent it, or to change it, the more you are
saying, "This is the
truth
about me."
How
should you react to something like that? You should not react. Something
within
you will do what it has to do, and you will be at peace if you will allow it to
do so,
first
things first.
"Seek
ye first the kingdom of heaven and all of it's righteousness, and all of these
things
will be added unto you," which means first things first. Focus your
attention on the
Self.
Realize that you are pure awareness, that you are aware that I am
consciousness,
resulting
in bliss. Therefore you are a body of bliss. Not as a human body, when I use
the
term
body, I mean the body of the universe. You are a body of bliss. Bliss is your
nature,
and
in that bliss there is nothing wrong.
Calm
down, mellow out, relax. You are the body of bliss, and your divine nature is
consciousness.
You can never have anything wrong in your life unless you put your mind
on
it and make it so. This is why you have to control your thinking. Do not allow
your
mind
to tell you what's going on. If you learn to live in the moment, if you learn
to center
yourself
and stay only in that moment, then you will be expressing consciousness, for
consciousness
is a moment thing. Consciousness is not yesterday or tomorrow. Consciousness
is this moment. It's the gap between yesterday and tomorrow, the fourth stage
of
life. After waking, dreaming and sleeping, then there is consciousness.
So
putting first things first will alleviate all of the negative conditions of
your life,
if
you have any. It will awaken you. And as you work on yourself, and your mind
brings
up
all kinds of things, as it will sometimes. In a very gentle way ask yourself,
"To whom
does
this come?" and keep still. And of course the answer will be, "It
comes to me. I feel
out
of sorts, I feel depressed, I feel as if I'm not getting what I want, I feel
that somebody is
taking
advantage of me." Further questioning, "Who is this I? What is its
source? Who
gave
the I birth? Where did it originate from? Who am I?" There is never an
answer to the
question
of, "Who am I?"
By
doing this process you will immediately feel better. And every time the mind
brings
up something else, you use the same procedure. "To whom does this come?
Who is feeling this? I am?" Just by saying, "I am," it will immediately take you out of your personal thoughts about yourself and lift you higher to what "I am" really is. Yet if you don't feel that, you can ask again, "Then who am I?" And you keep doing this over and over and over.
Someone
called me the other day and told me, "Robert, I've been practicing for
twelve
years, and I feel despondent and I feel depressed." So I said,
"Why?" And he said,
"Because
all my friends are enlightened except me." I had to laugh. "How do
you know?"
"They
told me."
How
can you explain that there are no others? It makes no difference what anyone
else
is doing. Let them all do what they will do. What does this have to do with
you?
When
you try to straighten things out, when you try to change other people, when you
try
to
make other people do what you want, you're holding up your spiritual progress.
Bless
everyone
and let them go. Leave the world alone. The world doesn't need your help,
thank
you. This world, remember, is an emanation of your own mind. Therefore you are
seeing
yourself when you look at the world.
As
you begin to go within, you will realize that you've always been within.
There's
nowhere
to go. The within and without is the same, pure consciousness. It begins with
you.
I
can sit here and talk all night, but what are you doing about your life? How do
you
see yourself? Forget about time. Even though you say, "I'm getting older,
I haven't
awakened
yet. I hope I awaken before I die," this is all false thinking. No one is
getting
older,
and no one has to awaken before they die, because no one dies. Get rid of that
type
of
thinking.
Forget about your age. Forget about your body and identify with consciousness.Identify with your Self. If you can just do that, everything else will take care of itself. I can promise you that.
Be
happy. Be radiant. Have a good word for everyone. Stop thinking of your
needs.
They will be met if you stop thinking about them. How will they be met?
Remember
there
is only ultimate oneness. And the ultimate oneness has never needed anything.
It
is
self-fulfilling, self-contained, all-pervading. So the one who thinks they need
something
is
the deluded self, the personal ego, the I.
But
reality is present here and now. This means that you are fulfilled here and
now.
There is no thing you need and there is nothing that has to change. I'm not
saying
you're
going to keep on suffering if you think you're suffering. What I'm saying is
simply
that
the one who thinks they're suffering is deluded. No one suffers. Take your mind
off
the
pettiness and begin to realize that your mind is causing you to feel these
things, the
belief
that you are a body and a mind.
Begin
to dwell on, "Who am I? Who is going through these experiences? Who
thinks
they're getting old?
Who thinks they will not make it in this life? Who? I. I do. Whoam I?" Continue the work. Do not worry about the world or other people. Work on yourself, diligently, constantly. Never let up, and you'll find that you become happier and happier. The old you is fading away. And you will awaken to yourself.
Any
questions?
(tape
break)
SK:
(tape starts abruptly) ...So this person is saying deal with the contents. Look
at what
is.
Now what I just got from you what I just flashed on, what he is saying is
dealing with what is, is
keeping
me in the now, I think?
R: You're right, if you are thinking about your problems and dealing with what is, then you are stuck in that place. You have to let go of what appears to be and identify with your real nature which is God or consciousness. And to the extent that you can identify with your real nature, to that extent will you find that everything is resolved in your life.
It's
not the other way around. If you are dealing with psychology it is. For all
psychologists
and
psychiatrists and mental people will tell you to deal with the problem. But you
realize
that even if you deal with the problem and even if you seem to resolve it a new
one
pops
up again. (SK: I don't understand that?) And another one pops up and it never
ends.
(SK:
What I'm saying, it's duality I guess. Instead of looking for peace in the
world, there isn't any
peace
in the world there is violence in the world. So if I look...) No, no, no, no,
no. There is no
violence
in the world and there is no peace in the world. Do not say one is different
than
the
other. They are two sides of the same coin. But rather ask yourself, "Who
sees the violence?
For
whom is there violence? For whom is there peace?" It is the ego that is
part of
those
things. (SK: Yeah I understand, I understand.) Get rid of both.
(Robert
continues) We have a tendency to look at what is going on in the world.
We
see the Iraqi situation, there was a war, there is man's inhumanity to man and
we tend
to
say, "I see violence." Violence is for the ego. Violence is for the personal
I. Therefore,
"Who
am I? Am I the personal I? Am I the ego? If I am then there will be violence
and I
will
have to help to alleviate it. But if I am consciousness that is completely
transcendental."
It
is like you are a chalkboard and the violence are images that you draw on the
chalkboard.
They come and they go, the images, but the chalkboard always remains the
same.
So the world comes and goes but consciousness always remains the same. It never
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fluctuates.
Identify with consciousness and become that. And you will be free of all these
concepts.
SV:
Robert I have a question. If one is serious about realization, can one do it by
himself in
solitude
by practice alone or is it necessary to be a devotee to a teacher or guru?
R:
It depends on the person. It is very difficult to go all of the way by
yourself.
There
are very few people who have done this. For it's difficult to transcend the
mind.
Being
in the presence of a teacher who has transcended will cause you also to
transcend.
Being
by yourself with the world pushing in on you from all directions makes it more
difficult
but it's possible. (SV: By being in the presence do you mean by just attending
satsang?)
Yes,
just being in satsang is sufficient.
(Robert
continues) Most of you think that you came here because you wanted to.
But
that is not true. You're being here tonight and being at satsang most of the
time, there
is
something within you fulfilling itself. You have earned it there are no
accidents. If you
took
the average person walking in the street tonight and brought him or her to
satsang.
They
would be filled with fear and run out of the room because their evolution has
not
come
to that place as yet.
This
is why I say, do not concern yourself with others. Rather look to yourself. If
you
have been devoted to yourself at home, understanding that you are the Self that
you
are
consciousness and you've been pure to yourself, something will guide you to
your
next
step of spiritual unfoldment. Everything takes care of itself. But you have to
take the
first
steps. This is why there is no one here tonight that has not been in spiritual
life for
quite
a while. Otherwise Jnana Marga will be foolishness to you. So you are where you
are
supposed
to be. The universe never makes mistakes.
SK:
Robert... (R: Umm.) ...You said a part of reasoning, I'm telling myself that I
have a
pure
consciousness. I do that, how do I get myself to that place where I believe
that or am I just in
another
delusion?
R: See you already made
a mistake because when you said, "I am," you are thinking
of your physical self
aren't you? (SK: But that's what I heard you say.) I am... did you
come late? (SK:
Pardon.) Did you come late? (SK: No.) Were you here from the beginning?
(SK:
You spoke of pure consciousness.) When you say when you wake up, "I am
pure consciousness"
or
"pure awakening, pure reality," you are referring to I am. You are
not referring
to
your physical self or to what you think you are. I am is consciousness, I am is
pure
awareness,
I am is not your body it has nothing to do with you. That is why I repeat this
so
much. When you say, "I Am," you are not referring to your body or to
your state of
being.
You are referring to absolute reality, to parabrahman. So when you first wake up
and
you say, "I am pure awareness," immediately you will get a feeling of
joy and bliss.
(SK:
How do I differentiate? Do I know that is the truth or a delusion or am I in
another fantasy
with
that?) Do not try at all to know. Simply make the statement and leave it at
that. Now
when
questions come up like you just asked, "I wonder if I am saying the truth
or am I in
illusion?"
ask yourself the question, "To whom comes those thoughts?" That’s how
you
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follow
it up. "Who thinks they are in an illusion," or "Are they
fooling themselves. To
whom
do these thoughts come?" And follow it through. If you do that, you will
wake up
one
morning and you will state, "I am is pure consciousness," and you
will be in bliss. (SK:
Just
by saying the words?) Just by saying that and identifying with them in their
reality, but
again
if anything else pops up in your mind ask yourself, "To whom does this
come?" And
follow
it through. You're killing two birds with one stone.
That's
a terrible expression isn't it? (laughter) Who wants to kill two birds with
one
stone? That's a terrible expression isn't it? Who wants to kill two birds with
one stone?
Who
came up with all these expressions? (SK: Nobody.) (students laugh)
R:
If you think about that you'll see you're getting double credit because you are
saying,
"I am is pure awareness," and when the other thoughts pop up in your
mind
you're
asking, "To whom do they come?" So you are attacking yourself from
all directions.
Something
has got to give sooner or later. But put it to practice make it work for you. (SK:
So
by doing that it creates a surrendering, a giving up, a letting go?) You can
say that, yes. But if
those
words come to you as you are doing that again, ask yourself, "Who has to
surrender?
Who
is there to let go?"
SU:
So Robert is it that which recognizes itself?
R:
That which you speak of is self-contained consciousness. It only knows itself
and
you are that Self.
SK:
What happens when ego intercedes?
R:
Ask yourself, "To whom does it come?" Whatever pops up you do the
same
thing,
"To whom does this come?"
SI:
Robert, asking, "Who is aware of this?" be equivalent?
R:
Who is aware of this? (SI: Yeah who is aware of whatever comes up? Is that the
equivalent
question?) Well that is not too clear. It's better to ask, "To whom does
this come?"
For
all different thoughts arise. You have to take them one at a time. If you say,
"Who is
aware
of this?" it's sort of ambiguous. But if you're feeling some kind of fear
or you think
you
are wasting your time, you merely ask, "To whom does this come? Who feels
this? I
do.
Who am I?"
SG:
Robert I almost feel like I've been hearing this and it's just occurring to me
that I'm
missing
something very basic, I don't know what it is exactly, but it's who is asking
this question?
R:
Ask yourself, ask yourself, "Who is asking the question?" Whatever
comes up
go
right back to self-inquiry until you get rid of everything. (SG: In this life
is there an entity
other
than the mind that is operating?) There is no entity at all. Nothing is
operating. What is
operating
are your thoughts that appear to be operating. So you must keep asking
yourself,
"To
whom do these thoughts come?"
SK:
When I said it's trying to be an empty vessel. It's identifying with an empty
vessel?
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R:
No, again, you have a concept of an empty vessel that has got to go. All
concepts,
all
ideas, all preconceived ideas have to go. If you think you're an empty vessel
then
you
keep seeing yourself as an empty vessel and that keeps you back. It's all got
to go.
SG:
Then the one that asks the question must go also?
R:
Of course, the one who asks the question is like the stick that stirs the fire.
You
throw
in all the twigs and you keep stirring. In the end you throw in the stick also.
It all
has
to be burnt up in consciousness.
SJ:
After you throw in that stick it takes a while for that stick to burn though?
Is that like
the
aftermath or...?
R:
Says who? (SJ: I'm asking?) If you believe it takes a while it takes a while.
(laughter)
But why should it take a while? Your real nature is here now. (SJ: Speaking to
us.)
(laughter)
SL:
Robert in the silence which doesn't seem to last very long before thoughts come
up.
Also
I'm aware of this physical grip. Something like when I'm aware of the thought
I'm also aware
that
with this thought has come this tension. And when I can really release the
tension I can stay in
the
moment. Can you help me with that?
R:
Yes you are making it complicated for yourself. As soon as you feel tension ask
yourself,
"To whom does it come?" (SL: Yeah, I realize that.) And then keep
going down
further.
(SL: Is that related to the thought at all or is it just...?) Of course it is.
Tension is related
to
all thoughts. Thoughts bring tension and tension brings thoughts. (SL: I'm not
aware that
the
thought is a tension provoking thought. They just seem to be just arrive to
me.) Then no matter
how
they come, ask yourself, "To whom do they come?" No matter what it is
use the
same
procedure until you get rid of everything.
SK:
Can I use the same procedure when I experience physical pain?
R:
Yes, sure, you may ask yourself, "To whom does this pain come?" And
you will
realize
that it's your ego that feels it. So when the realization comes that you are
not the
ego,
the pain will disappear.
SK:
Pain disappears?
R:
Why not? Where does it come from? It's part of the body. The belief that you
are
the
body. When that belief is eliminated, everything that goes with it is also
eliminated.
SK:
What are useful way or ways to work on for disbelieving we are the body?
R:
What are useful ways...? (SH: How do you get rid of the body idea?) That's what
we've
been talking about all night. (laughter) Ask yourself, "To whom does the
body
come?"
SK:
Robert is this not - all these thoughts — is this not a manifestation of ego?
So what
would
the process - I can't kill the ego, that's my belief maybe I can - What is a
process to go beyond
that?
Does the ego reconstruct itself through a series of spiritual growth or do I
have to watch for
that
constantly?
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R:
As you continue to work on yourself the ego like a balloon begins to become
deflated
and it bothers you less and less. As you keep inquiring, "Who am I? Who am
I? To
whom
does this come?" Your ego becomes smaller and smaller until it finally
disappears.
SF:
Robert when I'm inquiring, in the process of inquiry when I seem to face silence,
I
should
ask, "To whom does this silence comes to?"
R:
If you are thinking about silence you ask. The real silence is not a thought. (SF:
Right.)
So if you are thinking about silence, ask, "Who is thinking about silence?
To whom
does
the thought come?" (SF: Yeah, if I'm aware or I believe that I'm aware of
certain silence for
it’s
erroneous thinking about it?) The real silence comes when there is nobody to be
aware.
The
one who is aware has been transcended. (SF: So in that position there is no
need for any...)
No.
(SF: ..."To whom this comes to?") No, in that position there is only
silence. (SF: Right.) It
doesn't
come and it doesn't go. It just is.
SG:
What relationship should we have to the body, body-mind phenomena, the personal
I?
R:
You shouldn't have any relationship because it doesn't exist in reality. This
is
what
I meant before, that your personal I and your body will always take care of
itself. It
has
nothing to do with you. Your job is to identify with consciousness and your
body will
take
care of itself.
SK:
If a person was born in the jungle or something, lived their life according to
the natural
way
of life, no concepts, no ideas. Would that person be in the silence atmosphere?
R:
It all has to do with karma. It depends on your karma. (SK: I thought you said
there
wasn't any karma.) There isn't. But you are speaking of a person being born in
a
jungle.(laughter)
So as long as somebody is born there is karma. (SK: Well unconditioned
then.)
Well if you understood that there is no karma, there wouldn't be any jungle and
there
wouldn't be anybody being born. But as long as you feel there is then there is
karma.
(SK:
And you are caught up in it.) Sure and all kinds of stories, you have
analogies, stories,
predicaments,
it's all karmic. It doesn't exist.
SL:
So it's all just to stop the thinking. (R: You've got it, that's it.)
(laughter)
SL:
You said that when you had your realization that you haven't learned anything
since?
(R:
Okay?) Did you go to school then after that? (R: Nope.) Nope? (R: Nope.)
SJ:
Actually noone went to school. (SL: Oh, okay we're back to that.) (laughs)
R:
What would I do in school after that? (SL: Well you became a psychologist, am I
correct?)
Nah (laughter) (SL: Then you were a fake psychologist?) I faked it. (SL: Faked
it. But
you've
read things, you've read...) I still read things. (SL: Umm-hmm, but as you said
justifying
what
they were about rather than - like you've never read all the works of
Shakespeare?) Not really,
I've
been through it, I know about it and I have read lots of books, but it's
meaningless.
(SL:
But not to learn but just to see what they are about?) Just to see what's going
on.
SK:
Robert can I ask you what your relationship was with Krishnamurti... he deals
with I
guess
he deals with more of looking at the contents...
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Adams Satsangs: The Collected Works
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R:
Well what can I say? (SK: I don't know?) I didn't have any personal
relationship
with
Krishnamurti. He had a message.
SV:
Robert in inquiring doesn't there come a time like you just have to stay silent
and you
feel
yourself just being drawn in. Do you still look at it, as long as you are aware
of it, do you keep
still
questioning it?
R:
As you keep asking yourself, "Who am I?" You become quieter and
quieter until
the
day comes when you stop asking and you remain in silence. (SV: But I'm talking
about
during
the inquiry, like you have an experience of like, almost like your awareness is
going somewhere,
is
to keep questioning continuously?) You automatically do what you have to do. As
you
keep questioning you will find that you are becoming calmer and quieter and
more
blissful
and you will question less and less. (SV: But as long as you are aware you
question?)
As
long as you're physical you question.
Okay,
let's close our eyes for a few moments. Pay attention to your respiration.
Become
the witness to your respiration. Realize that the breath is part of the bodily
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